uk Mailing List: Re: Tories in Government

[novianto nugroho (novianto.nugroho]

jadi ingin tahu, apa alasan pemerintahan kita tidak mengizinkan dua
kewarganegaraan ?

Ada yang punya informasi tersebut ? mungkin bs sedikit sharing. atau link ke
website yg ada penjelasannya jg sudah cukup :)
terutama kerugian yg didapat dari pemerintah indonesia jika seseorang punya
dua kewarganegaraan ?

Terima kasih,
Novi


2010/5/12 Chris Prakoso <brajamusti [at] gmail.com>

> Yup, obviously.
> Berani berbuat, berani bertanggung-jawab, tentunya.
>
> Tapi kalo boleh dilihat dari sisi lain ... sejak kapan kita menjalankan
> peraturan pemerintah kita secara 100%, apalagi di Indonesia.  Misalnya,
> berapa banyak orang yang bikin SIM tanpa pake tes, berapa kali kita memilih
> 'damai' daripada memilih SIM-nya disita.  Saya yakin masih banyak
> 'damai-damai', 'shortcut-shortcut' yang kita pakai.
>
> Just a thought :)
> Bagus
>
> 2010/5/12 Dono Widiatmoko <dono.widiatmoko [at] gmail.com>
>
> > itu sama artinya menghormati peraturan satu negara tapi tidak
> > menghormati peraturan negara lainnya....
> >
> >
> >
> > 2010/5/12 novianto nugroho <novianto.nugroho [at] gmail.com>:
> > > Halo,
> > >
> > > ngomong2 pindah warga negara,
> > > mungkin opsi tambahan,
> > > knp tidak jadi warganegara inggris tp jgn sampe ketauan pemerintah
> > indonesia
> > > kalo org tersebut sudah pindah warga negara.
> > >
> > > saya punya temen, di negaranya tidak diperbolehkan 2 kewarganegaraan,
> tp
> > dia
> > > mengakalinya dg pindah warga negara tanpa ketauan pemerintah dari
> negara
> > > asalnya. saya tidak tau betul proses pindah kewarganegaraan jadi tidak
> > tahu
> > > detail cara kerjanya. abis ga pengen kehilangan kewarganegaraan
> Indonesia
> > > sih.
> > >
> > > Salam,
> > > Novi
> > >
> > >
> > > 2010/5/12 pantaiema <pantaiema [at] yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >> Yang jelas tdk ada yang bisa memastikan 100% apakah ILTR ada perubahan
> > atau
> > >> tidak. Tapi dari track record dari conservative masuk akal kalau
> mereka
> > akan
> > >> lakukan sesuatu ttg ILTR.
> > >>
> > >> -Waktu Konervative di government, student sama sekali tdk dibolohkan
> > kerja
> > >> P/T.
> > >> -Dari manifesto kemarin, sdh disetujui cap on the number of
> Immigaration
> > >> dan ini sdh disetujui oleh Liberal Demokrat.
> > >>
> > >> barangakali org yang ada di UK dan memang masih berminat kerja di UK
> > >> setidaknya untuk beberapa tahun ke depan jangka panjang satu-satunya
> > safe
> > >> option yang tersedia adalah ganti warga negara begitu sdh qualify,
> kalau
> > >> tidak mau semakin terjepit.
> > >>
> > >> Tapi datang lagi masalah lain ynag harus juga di timbang,  dgn option
> > ini
> > >> ada kemungkina ybs akan kehilangan WNI nya. Yah bagai  makan Bunga
> > >> Simalakama terjepit dari dua arah.
> > >>
> > >> Apa rekan-rekan ynag lain bisa melihat option ynag lain ??.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: budhi mulyawan <budhiyawan [at] yahoo.co.uk>
> > >> To: Adi <pantaiema [at] yahoo.com>
> > >> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 11:07:06 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] Tories in Government
> > >>
> > >> Pak Perry
> > >>
> > >> Terima kasih atas informasinya. Untuk warga negara asing yang menetap
> > tetap
> > >> ILTR di UK akan ada perubahan ndak yah?..
> > >> Apart from katanya semakin sulit cari kerjaan karena 'Warga asing non
> > EU'
> > >> sementara employment agency kemarin2, di salah satu emails milis ini,
> > >> disuruh priorities the British and EU Citizens aja.. Jadi kejepit
> dong.
> > Atau
> > >> malah semakin sulit jadi UK citizen. Udah gitu ndak bisa milih MP
> lagi.
> > >>
> > >> Salam,
> > >> B
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry [at] ismangil.com>
> > >> To: buddy <budhiyawan [at] yahoo.co.uk>
> > >> Sent: Tue, 11 May, 2010 22:09:51
> > >> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] Tories in Government
> > >>
> > >> Udah jelas yang diperlukan selalu adalah... MP! Jadi, belajarlah jadi
> > >> politisi...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Perry Ismangil
> > >> perry [at] ismangil.com
> > >> http://me.ismangil.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------- Original message -------
> > >> > From: Chris Prakoso <brajamusti [at] gmail.com>
> > >> > To: perry [at] ismangil.com
> > >> > Sent: 11.5.'10,  22:09
> > >> >
> > >> > Kkkkkk :) Tukang tambal ban?  Atau seperti Bapak-ku selalu bilang
> ....
> > >> > belajar jadi Tukang Cukur, karena selalu diperlukan, dimanapun,
> > kapanpun
> > >> > dan
> > >> > dalam situasi bagaimanapun :)
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Eddy Manurung
> > >> > <eddy.manurung [at] gmail.com>wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Not that soon, probably need to take practical courses, i.e:
> > plumbing,
> > >> >> electricity, bricks building, etc. just for precaution....
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 11 May 2010 21:42, Chris Prakoso <brajamusti [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Time to move out?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Bagus
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Perry Ismangil <
> > perry [at] ismangil.com>
> > >> >> > wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > You're right, there is talk about means-testing child benefit.
> > And
> > >> >> > lowering
> > >> >> > > maximum threshold for tax credit.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > --
> > >> >> > > Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> > > perry [at] ismangil.com
> > >> >> > > http://me.ismangil.com
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > ------- Original message -------
> > >> >> > > > From: Dono Widiatmoko <dono.widiatmoko [at] gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > > To: perry [at] ismangil.com
> > >> >> > > > Sent: 11.5.'10,  20:13
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > less child benefit, tax credits and the like?
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > :Dono
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > On 11 May 2010 20:01, Perry Ismangil <perry [at] ismangil.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >> That means a slightly stronger anti immigration bias.
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> They're going to limit the number of immigrants each year.
> So
> > >> >> Tier
> > >> >> > 1,2,
> > >> >> > > >> and
> > >> >> > > >> 4 most likely.
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> What else....
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> --
> > >> >> > > >> Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> > > >> perry [at] ismangil.com
> > >> >> > > >> http://me.ismangil.com
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >>
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> > >> >> Regards,
> > >> >> Eddy Manurung
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